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world. youtube is how saudis saw the women driving, and youtube can help to spark serious change. so think about this way, 60% of college students are female, and only 10% of the women actually have jobs, the lowest rate in the region. and even though it seems small in comparison, if you can't drive, how do you get to work? in saudi arabia, to not drive is to not be a person. and that is what those women on youtube and the video are now trying to change. "ac360" starts now. erin, thanks, tonight the nsa phone-tapping scandal deepens and the questions grow louder about what the president knew about the operation and if he didn't know, why not? also today, a year after sandy people who need help rebuilding say they're being left high and dry a year later. look at these two, they stepped out of the shower and literally climbed out of jail, we'll update you on the escape and the ongoing manhunt.
first, more on the obama care website mess, what did the president know if anything, what does it say about how he governs? on many subjects, he is trying to project the image of leadership and personal accountability. >> the buck will stop with me. >> the buck stops with me. >> the buck stops with me. i'm the president and the buck stops with me. >> the buck stops with me, ultimately the buck stops with me. >> tonight, though, where precisely the buck stops is somewhat less than clear. when it comes to the long-standing phone scandal on german chancellor angela merkel, the white house claims they did not know about it. a senior official backs it up. another official says he was briefed on what the details of the nsa were doing, even if he didn't know the phone was
tapped. and dianne feinstein weighed in with this. i am quoting now. it is my understanding that president obama was not aware that chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 1992. that was a big problem. she also says she was not briefed either and is calling for a review of the white house programs. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is joining us, jim, a tough statement from dianne feinstein, what is the white house's reaction? >> well, the white house's reaction is that the senator is correct, the president did not know about this foreign surveillance program aimed at world leaders. but they are taking issue, wolf, with one thing that the senator did say in that statement. and that is that these collection activities aimed at foreign leaders will not continue. i talked to a senior administration official who said
that part of the statement is not accurate. that some of these programs are being changed on an individual basis. but that in large part, these policies, these programs are continuing for the time being while all of this is being reviewed. and as you mentioned, wolf, the folks up on capitol hill want to take a look at this. senator feinstein, the intelligence community, they want to take a look at this. but the white house is conducting their own internal review at this time. it should be conducted by tehe end of the year, and there could be changes by the end of the year. >> so jim, the white house is adamant the president didn't know about the phone tapping. >> well, the president set the priorities and other intelligence told to us, that he would have been briefed on the issue, regarding allied countries involved, without being told of the specific
targets. that is the delicate square that is being addressed here. i talked to a senior official who said it doesn't necessarily mean that the nsa is going rogue here. but the white house understands it needs better guidance on the policies and priorities so they don't go beyond what the president approved or was aware of. >> jim sciutto, how concerned are you about the diplomatic revelations of these allegations? >> well, they're very concerned. i spoke to one member of the delegation who said that people in the capitol, leaders are fearful and concerned about this kind of spying. so they want explanations. i spoke to another former u.s. official who told me that you know, the u.s. has listing posts in these countries, and they're called diplomats. people with relationships in these countries to speak to the counterparts. and these are the kind of agencies that they want to share
information. it is a much better way that the administration says going forward to gather this kind of information. >> and jim acosta, the white house has to also contend with the disastrous situation of the medical obama care. once again, a major disruption over the weekend. so what can you tell us about this part of the story? >> well, health and human services, their folks are now saying that the data services hub over at teramark, which is a subsidiary of verizon, that provides some of the capabilities, that that data services hub is back up and running again. and they are continuing to work on the larger issues with the obama care website. and that is all the millions of people trying to get in there and file applications and get enrolled for coverage.
but meanwhile, wolf, there is an issue on the horizon, people are getting notices letting them know their insurance programs they have now are being cancelled or modified. and in many cases, their rates are going up. people are complaining about this. the white house is responding, saying yes this is going to happen to people because of new requirements that are coming into effect next year. but wolf, i talked to an insurance industry source earlier this evening who said this is going to be a problem for lots of americans out there. that they're going to see modifications made to their plans, in some cases, cancellations are going to happen. and that essentially a lot of americans out there are just going to have to roll through the punches. why is this important? because the president has said many times over if you like your plan you can change it. but it seems to the industry insiders and what is happening right now just on a large scale through the obama program that the president should have never used those words. >> yes, the president repeatedly said if you like your plan, you
can keep your plan. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, not necessarily happening across the board. jim acosta, jim sciutto, thank you for joining us. and more with op-ed columnist charles blow. charles, on the op-ed situation, it is surprising the president would not know about a program spying on top allies, listening to the phone conversations of angela merkel, the german chancellor, was going on. is there any reason for him not to know this stuff? >> well, i think the bigger issue is the incredible situation that should disturb us about the nsa, they're in a position if they can do it, they can do it. it is kind of a hoover-esque moment. whether or not the president would know everything they're
doing. since they're doing so much, i'm not sure that is the proper expectation. but basic kind of rule of management is never let the boss get caught off guard. the boss is caught off guard here. that is a problem for -- that is a management problem and they're going to have to figure that management problem out, and wherever that broke down. but the idea that the president would know everything, everyone who is being wire tapped. i don't think that anyone at this point knows. i think the fact that we're having reviews at this point of what is actually happening with the nsa is important for the country. because i don't think that we have a great handle on what is happening. >> you're absolutely right, we're learning a great deal every single day. ross, you say the political calculation is understandable here, what do you mean by that? >> well, i think that when you're dealing -- the nsa is a particular case because we have had so much fear recently over potential domestic intelligence gathering. but it is pretty normal when you're dealing with sort of
intelligence issues for the president to maintain a certain level of plausible deniability on the spying. it is something we do, pretty much everybody does -- in the case of the nsa, you're dealing with the spector of the spy craft. whether or not the president knew, it is normal for them to say he didn't. i think it is unfortunate for the white house that this is happening at the moment they are having to say oh, and the president didn't know about the massive problems with the website, which is essential to his party here. the question then becomes, well, why did the people who failed to keep him in the loop still have their jobs? and it is also a question with kathleen sebelius, it becomes more of a question with general
alexander, with director clapper, the figures in the national security element, as well. the confluence of the two makes this a bigger and more glaring issue for the president's credibility. >> right, unfortunate, but also a coincidence. i don't think we connect these two things and say oh, this white house, this president wants to be in the dark about things -- so hands -- >> i'm just trying to imagine what charles would say about this confluence if george w. bush were in the white house. >> i think these two things were actually separate things. they're completely different agencies and completely different timelines. the nsa situation has been happening over a very long time. the website issues happened over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out. the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not to let the country go into default. >> ah. >> there is no ah, come on,
ross. >> sorry. >> but they're kind of separate things. i think you're right. you take your lumps, because they do happen at the same time. and people will draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think that they should. >> does it raise the broader question, though, charles, that the president is out of touch? >> that is what i was trying to get at. i just don't get that sense, but i do believe that whenever there is something that could be embarrassing, you know, your underlings have a responsibility to make sure you're covered and to make sure you understand things are happening and that you're in the loop. that is a problem in these particular cases, there is no getting around that. it is an embarrassment. they happened to happen about the same time. people will make those connections, even if they're not the most logical connections to make. i do not believe this is necessarily a president who is out of the loop snie should say i agree with charles in a sense that these are separate issues,
if they were not happening at the same time again in the area of spy craft, why the president wants to maintain deniability, if it is true, and i don't believe that it is, that the president had no idea there were problems before launch, then that is a massive indictment of frankly the entire white house. this is not a case that the website, despite what some have said, is separate from the policy. the website is the policy. the policy doesn't work without the website and everyone in the white house knows that. so frankly it is unimaginable to me that he didn't have some sense. and if he didn't really, then people should be resigning. >> it is completely imagining. did you listen to the testimony the other day? you're saying that nobody in this entire chain was not taking control and taking responsibility. everybody said their part of the thing was working and felt no responsibility to pass along the fact it was not working. i think it is a mess, and i
think -- >> i have this dim memory of seeing the president say the buck stops with me over and over again. but i guess we disagree -- >> ross, and charles, guys, thank you very much. the conversation will continue, up next, the people who are still hurting one year and tens of billions of federal dollars since superstorm sandy came to shore. we'll introduce you to a remarkable family who say their efforts to rebuild are now stuck in a government catch 22. and later, the daring jail break and manhunt for right now, two dangerous inmates. ready to run your lines? okay, who helps you focus on your recovery? yo, yo, yo. aflac. wow. [ under his breath ] that was horrible. pays you cash when you're sick or hurt? [ japanese accent ] aflac. love it. [ under his breath ] hate it. helps you focus on getting back to normal? [ as a southern belle ] aflac.
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. a year ago tonight, the most densely populated part of the country was bracing for one of of the biggest storms ever. superstorm sandy, a tropical storm wrapped in a nor'easter, surrounded by a blizzard. high winds, heavy rain, snow, a storm surge, the likes of which east coast cities had not seen in modern memory or in some cases, ever. and as these then and now photos show, the damage lingers in so
many places but is almost undetectible elsewhere. the town of sea side heights turned into a grid, not of streets but canals. the rebuilding there still under way. in brooklyn, the iconic image of the battery tunnel, inundated, now just a memory. it is high and dry, but a lot of repairs are still being done on the new york subways, including the 8 train down to rockaway, and breezy point where more than 100 homes burned. then there are the people of staten island. this family, a year ago as you can see were living in horrific conditions, no water, power, heat or hope. now as they struggle to rebuild their home and their lives they find themselves in a different kind of nightmare. "ac360" has more. >> reporter: from the outside, the house looks okay. they received money from fema to
fix the exterior after hurricane sandy. >> you still have a mess out here, but let's go inside. >> reporter: inside is a whole different story. >> this was our foyer, we had pictures of the kids in different stages of their lives. the wall was all pictures. >> reporter: a year later, the lower level of the house was devastated. >> this was a living room area. we had big -- >> big cabinet with the tv. >> the television, couch. >> all of my wife's crystal collection. >> crystal collection. >> the cabinets actually just flowed. and it fell over. everything was just destroyed. >> reporter: so why does it still look this way? sadly, their story is all too common after a disaster of this kind. to finance further repeat to their home, the family requested a low interest government loan. >> i worked my whole entire life. i paid my taxes. i'm you're typical middle class american. >> reporter: the family was told by the government they could get the loan, but only if they got flood insurance first.
but the family says they can't afford flood insurance because the elevation of their home is so low it drives the premium up. so they're saying if you have flood insurance, we'll give you a loan, you can't afford the insurance, but you can't afford the house if you don't have insurance. >> yes. >> reporter: what makes the cameradas different is they talked to president obama about it. you can see this video, two weeks after the hurricane hit, the president came to staten island and talked to the families. >> some of this will be tough. this is the commitment to you. i'll stay on it. i wouldn't be a stranger and forget all about it. >> reporter: the cameradas know the president is a busy guy, but don't believe the president stayed on it. >> you know, you hold the president to it. because that is the only hope you got. >> reporter: for now, the family and their four children continue to look for a solution, while
they stay in their damaged home. >> i don't have time to think about it, because just talking about it brings about raw emotions. sorry. >> it's okay. >> my wife is what is holding this family together. >> reporter: dianne made a plea to barack obama on that day. >> don't forget about us. >> that is my point, that is why i came. >> reporter: a plea the cameradas hope the president still remembers. >> and gary is joining us now from staten island. and gary, has the family considered selling their house and property and starting over somewhere else? >> the family would love to sell this house but nobody wants to buy a heavily damaged house. as far as the property goes in an area decimated by a super storm, the only people looking for property are looking for fire sales. they can't afford to sell it because they can't get enough.
but they also can't afford to keep it. a very difficult situation. >> as you say, a catch 22, gary thanks for that report. one of the strongest advocates for sandy is peter king who joins us tonight. congressman, we hear from people a year later who are still stuck in terrible circumstances and unable to regain the financial footing and regain their homes. they're stuck in this catch 22 situation when it comes to government loans and flood insurance. here is the question, why is there still such a huge problem a year after sandy helping these folks? >> well, my district was hit particularly hard. and my office, we work full-time trying to work with many of the people who are still having problems. let me just put one positive note on this. an awful lot of progress has been made. many people have gotten significant amounts of money, certainly in my district, also, for instance, a sewage treatment plant is being rebuilt.
and local businesses are getting tremendous amounts of money that were laid out, which will certainly help people with their property taxes. much of the slowdown, if you will, is because first of all it took congress almost three months to act. and then after that you had 60 days where the government had to solicit opinions. and also a lot of what they're trying to do is make sure there is no waste of money, the claims are proper. we work with fema, the spa, and we worked with "new york rising" in new york, which distributes the funds, and i think it is speeding up. again, it took a while for everything to be approved at the federal level, and then the state. and fema has been giving a lot more money, and all i can say is the process is speed iing up. for anybody out of their home as a number of my constituents are, it is still a problem.
i was at an event in lindenhurst, which is still hit hard, a number of them have had damage, this is the worst storm we had really in the history of new york, over 60 or $70 billion worth of damage was done. so you combine the new york/new jersey area. so all i can say is there is no issue more important to my office. we're working with these people on a regular basis who has been hit so hard. and progress has been made. i think we'll see that progress going ahead exponentially, but again, we can't let up until everybody has been taken care of. >> you're right, the group "taxpayers for common sense," says that less than a billion dollars for relief that has been appropriated has actually gone out the door. if you're aware of this, i assume that is a concern to you. >> it is, wolf, but let's keep
in mind. if the money was spent too quickly those people would be yelling about that. the fact is every precaution is being built in to make sure the money is properly spent, that none of it is being wasted or going to fraudulent claims. also, a lot of that money is going to mitigate, to use for construction to stop damage for future concerns. and we're working with the local county and state governments, to make sure they don't just put good money after bad. so that is -- i think a lot of this really is because they're being very prudent as to how the money is spent. and also to make sure that if we have another sandy in four or five or six years that we don't have the same type of damage. again, when they're talking about the money not being spent fast enough, i would say you know, the other side of that, that means the money is being spent very carefully and
prudently. >> congressman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> and four inmates escape from an oklahoma jail. two have now been execute, bcau two others are still on the loose, and how they managed to escape, next. the man who raped dozens of women is about to be released from a state mental hospital in california. and the residents of the community where he may be living after that are worried. we'll take you there when "ac360" continues. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. more than a new interior lighting system.
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shower, two inmates were spotted while walking in a convenience store. two others, convicted on drug charges, waiting to be tried on a federal gun charge. george howell is joining us now, george, it sounds like this escape was from a movie. how did they pull it off? >> reporter: well, you have to consider there were many different inmates in this detention center, many of them waiting to be shipped off to a state prison. but these four inmates had a different plan. their focus was on this maintenance hatch, just above the shower. they pushed the door forward and were able to get in the stealce and followed a crawl space, pushing cement blocks to get into a room. where there was an unlocked door, they walked right through. >> and then they were caught, at least two of them, while they were spotted at a convenience store. how did that happen? >> reporter: well, you know that is all due to a watchful eye of the investigator with the gray
county attorney's office. he was close by in oklahoma, he spotted these two men, noticed their clothes, dirty, wet, and he followed them into a convenience store. that is when he also called chikasha police, they arrived, they chased the men and eventually caught them. but again, there is concern about these other two men and where they could be. >> are there any leads on where these other two inmates may be? they're obviously still on the run. >> reporter: right, you know, we talked to attorneys about that. given the first two were in chikasha, it could be that the other two are in the same area, keep in mind they are considered dangerous men, very dangerous men out there but investigators are doing their best, obviously, to search the area to find them and bring them back to where they escaped. >> let us know, george, thank you very much, george howell. on the scene, there is much more happening, isha sesay has the
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daylight. and also this to show you, this creature, which is hard to make it due to camouflage, called the leaf-tailed gecko, it hides during the day and hunt s at night. >> pretty cool, i don't even know what that is -- all right, isha, thank you very much. up next, the residents of one california town say they don't want this man, known as the pillowcase rapist, to move into their community. we'll examine his rights. and up next, the family of chris kyle, the former navy seal considered the best sniper in the u.s. military and who was murdered, allegedly by another vet. u and your unique health needs. then we help create a personalized healthcare experience that works for you. and you. and you.
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crime and punishment tonight, there is anger in a residential community north of los angeles where a man dubbed the pillowcase rapist may soon be moving in. sometime in the next few months, 62-year-old christopher hubbard could be released from the state mental hospital where he was for 20 years. state prosecutors say he sexually assaulted at least 40 women. on friday they announced he could move to the town of lake los angeles when he gets out of prison. the residents are fearful, they
say there are children and they don't want him anywhere near their community. kyung lah has more. >> reporter: two hours from downtown l.a. is the place where one of california's most infamous rapists will soon call home. can you see the house from your driveway? >> yeah, it is actually over there. >> reporter: just two doors down. >> i wouldn't even want to come home. and how is that fair to me, to be forced not to come home out of fear from him. >> reporter: fear, and stone was not even alive during christopher's reign of terror. it was the '70s and '80s when he was known as the pillowcase rapist, after his practice of covering their heads with a pillowcase. he was first arrested in the early '70s, he later admitted to raping almost two dozen women
throughout the state over a ten-year period. he came through the neighborhood, looking for garages opened, after husbands left for work. he served six years behind bars and was released in 1979me. prosecutors say he then raped another 23 women, after serving two more sentences for rape and burglary, he was paroled, part of that being for psychological evaluation, which resulted in his parole being revoked. his psychiatrists testified he had a mental condition, with a possible case of recurring. >> it sent a shock of fear throughout the community. >> reporter: the l.a. county board supervisor remembers the pillowcase rapist, and was stunned to learn that a judge
was releasing him to his very own county. >> will this community be protected from this man? >> there is no way you can protect the community. you don't have 24/7 protection, he will be living in a cage, that is the problem, that is how rapists attack. >> reporter: so how can hubbard be released here in the community? there is a school, but far enough away required by california law. there is also a park, but again, just slightly farther than 2,000 feet. this is, as the judge said in the state of california, an appropriate place for a man who has done his time. >> i don't think it is fair or right. >> reporter: the residents of neighboring palmdale are outraged, disagreeing with the judge saying that hubbard has never lived here. if you have served your time, shouldn't you be allowed to live here? >> yes, but why in a community you have no ties to?
>> reporter: as required by law, he will have an electronic monitor, and cannot drive a car, but that is not enough for his new neighbors. how does that make you feel as a young woman living close? >> not safe, not for me or for my community. not for anybody. >> kyung lah is joining us, is this all over? can the residents do anything about this? >> reporter: it is not quite over, there is a brief period of time until november where the residents can write in, phone in, and e-mail their complaints. and there will actually be a public hearing in december as to whether or not he actually should move in here. and wolf, i can tell from you the facebook page, what i hear from local leaders, so far the response has been overwhelming. >> what about the owner from the home where he will be living? what does he have to say? >> reporter: you know, this is where it gets interesting. i spoke to the owner's son, he
said he had no idea this was the sort of person moving into their neighborhood. he said he loves their neighbors and doesn't want to do anything to the neighborhood, but he is not sure there is anything they can do. they are exploring their options. >> thank you, kyung lah, we'll be joined by sonny hostin, who brought sexual predators to trial. thank you very much. guys, obviously, the residents are very upset. you can't blame them. do they have a legal recourse? >> you know, i don't think they have any legal recourse. i think certainly the government has almost exhausted all legal recourse. but as kyung lah said, certainly they can wage their complaints. they have about 45 days to do that. there will be a hearing december 4th. and perhaps the judge will reconsider his decision. but i have to tell you what is so shocking to me, especially somebody who has tried these types of cases, the violent sexual predators.
in today's legal system they would be put away for life. because we know they cannot be rehabilitated or put back into society. there is just such a high rate of recidivists, that they have to be kept in a prison or mental hospital. they can't be reintroduced into society. so this predator just falls into this really weird space where you have psychologists saying he has done his time and is ready to be reintroduced into society. i can tell you he will re-offend again, he can't be put back into society. >> and you say it is a very unique area of the law, how so? >> it is, and here is why. what people need to understand is that the svpa, the sexually violent predator act, in all of the states they take somebody near the end of their sentence, the end of serving their obligation to society and
essentially adding on potentially indefinitely an additional term of incarceration, although it is really called a civil commitment. so in essence, hubbard and others like him are effectively sentenced after they're done serving their sentence. and it is interesting, only because in society this is a unique kind of crime. we're willing to say with this kind of crime there is such a high rate of recidivism, because we have this fear of a future crime. you really wouldn't see it if somebody was a three-time bank robber or assault -- we wouldn't commit them. but this kind of crime, incredibly high rate of recidivism, special circumstances for these people. >> and he was released in '79 after serving only six years in jail. he then committed dozens more
rapes, was sent back to jail. that first sentence, it seems it was extremely light. you admit raping all of these women, you get six years in jail. doesn't that seem like a pretty light sentence? >> it is, wolf, it is outrageous, but i think again in terms of law enforcement and prosecutors we understand these types of criminals much better now. there have been a lot of studies. and we know they re-offend, we know it is extremely difficult if not impossible to rehabilitate them. post-'95 or 6, he would be put away for life. unfortunately, for this community, that is just not the case. we just didn't -- i think know enough about these types of criminals back then. >> danny, there is very much a not in my own back yard attitude about these kinds of cases, understandably. so is the law clear when it comes to balances people's
rights to protect themselves from a predator with ensuring that a person released is treated equitably? >> yeah, it is interesting you bring that up, wolf, because as a society we have decided that these offenders, we'll post their names, the government will post their names to a website, to the public, and yet we act surprised when the neighbors are up in arms over it. we essentially put the information out there and the resulting action is predictable. >> it is pretty shocking to the folks who are living in that neighborhood knowing that a guy like this will live there. so it is totally understandable they want to change it if they can. we'll update our viewers, thank you, guys, very much. just ahead, the widow and brother of a former navy seal sniper, chris kyle. they are now speaking out about the man they love and miss, and his tragic death. what they told anderson about the troubled vet accused of
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most lethal sniper in the u.s. military. the memorial edition was just released. kyle also started a foundation to help vets struggling with ptsd. he had reached out to ralph after learning about his troubles. recently, anderson spoke to kyle's widow and his brother, jeff kyle. >> your husband left the navy in 2009, was that a tough decision for him. >> incredibly difficult. it was difficult for both of us, but incredibly difficult for him because he knew he was serving a purpose. he knew he was saving lives. and he really truly felt no matter what he had done, he was letting his country down when he got out. >> do you wear his dog tags? >> i do, all the time. i'm usually not very sentimental about things, but i put them on one day and it just does something for me. >> jeff, what kind of a guy was
chris? >> he was a mountain of a man, his heart was even bigger than he was. he was a protector, always has been, from the time we were little. >> you were in the marine recon, did he give you grief about that? >> every day. >> and you served also in iraq, but not at the same time as your brother? >> correct. >> the fact you were both in the same operations although at different times, were you able at times to get together and talk about what you had seen and what you had been through? >> we tried to make it a point after ever deployment, to get together and talk, he was probably the only person i could talk to about certain things, and i would assume likewise, same thing with me. >> and he would take veterans out, just shooting, hunting, shooting at targets. and i think for people who don't maybe shoot in their lives, they may not understand it. but in a way, he found that guns
could help heal people in the process of healing. >> i think he learned from people he talked to that were in the hospitals who didn't heal as quickly in that cold, sterile environment, even though it is great, they just didn't heal as quickly. you get them in the outdoors, fresh air, talking with other veterans, just as jeff said it is nice to have somebody you can relate to. >> the incident in which he was killed, did you know this person he was going out with? did he really know much about the person? >> he certainly did not have the information about this guy. he was given limited information. he should have been given more, in my opinion. but in his eyes, it is somebody from his community. he is not going to question it a whole lot. >> my understanding, there is a blame towards ptsd. does it anger you? >> i wouldn't say it angers me as much -- >> it did -- >> i think it makes me feel very, very protective for people who genuinely have ptsd.
because we know a lot of them are wonderful people, serve in justice-related fields. they have huge hearts, so if something happens, it doesn't change their character, they carry guns, they love their families. they may be moody. but 100% it does not turn you into a cold-blooded killer. >> and it increases the stigma of somebody who has ptsd? >> everybody who comes back either from iraq or afghanistan, any kind of combat situation is pretty much labelled with ptsd. if you have been in any kind of action or even heard of the guys going out there, getting some action, oh, no, i have got ptsd now. and that is the problem that the government is getting into, is labelling everybody with ptsd. and it has just become an excuse. >> sometimes when somebody dies in a horrific and tragic way, it is hard to remember, to focus on how they lived their lives, you
end up focusing on how their life ended. jeff, do you find yourself thinking about how chris' life ended? >> it definitely stays with me. but i don't dwell on it, you know, because i was fortunate enough to know him for 35 years. i can remember a lot more than just that one day. >> you, obviously, as well? >> there -- i don't think often about the way that he died. i actually think a whole lot about the way that he lived. i feel him with me. my kids feel him with us. i certainly miss him like crazy. and yet, there was such a magnetism and such a strength about his being, his love, his laughter, his humiliaty, all of it wrapped up in this package, it doesn't leave you.
i don't think i'll ever live a day that i don't feel the strength of him and the foundation he left us with. i don't think you could live a more full life, a life full of gusto. i just don't think it is possible. i think he did an amazing job. he lives on in so many people. what a gift. >> well, thank you so much for talking about chris. i appreciate it. >> and you can learn more about chris kyle's legacy at the family's website, up next, new information about the settlements for the victims of convicted sexual predator, jerry sandusky, it is tens of millions, but is it enough? also, chris brown in court tonight facing new charges, what a judge decides about his fate. that is next. weekdays are for rising to the challenge. they're the days to take care of business. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters.
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humility, humil let's get caught up on some other stories, isha sesay joining us once again with a "ac360" bulletin. wolf, penn state will pay more than $60 million to the victims of the sexual assault by jerry sandusky, the settlement was announced today. and chris brown, with a fight outside his hotel got him charged with felony assault. a judge reduced the charge and ordered brown to see his probation officer in california
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